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California Patriot
07-22-2007, 07:30 PM
Dear Dana,

We have a problem.

Not sure if you recall, but I broached the subject of steroids with you way back when, well before we faced the reality that mixed martial artists are the Robert Downey Jr.'s of the sporting world.

You said drug testing of any kind wasn't your responsibility; it was up to the state regulators.

OK, well, that's fine I guess, as long as you're diligent in promoting your product in locales that independently test for both so-called performance-enhancers and drugs of abuse. But then again, it's not really good enough, is it? There is a lot more MMA out there than what's being promoted by Zuffa, right?

Either way, you went to Texas several months ago and it turned out they don't test. Neither does any regulatory body in the UK, which you've gone to twice and are returning again in September.

(Oops, the UFC tested guys in Belfast. What were those results? Don't quite remember seeing ‘em anywhere.)

It seems, from a distance mind you, that you're passing the buck, which is puzzling considering the control you exert over everything else that has to do with the UFC brand.

I know you said the "UFC fully supports the commission's efforts and we will continue to take the measures that keep this sport clean and keep the athletes safe." At first glance, that seems like the status quo. And if I understand correctly, when it comes to making sure your athletes aren't defrauding the public and holding hostage the integrity of this still fledgling sport, you want to leave that to someone else.

You don't let anyone refill toilet paper in the bathroom stalls of your Las Vegas offices without signing off first.

What's different here Dana?

Maybe the pending perception battle doesn't bother you so much. I mean, after experiencing the joy of spending millions of dollars to change how most Americans view the UFC and MMA, you've got to want to do that again, I'm sure.

The fact that fighters can't stop themselves from taking a bong rip before their Doritos-caked hands jab a needle into their ass … that isn't a call to arms?

I'm not saying this is your fault. That dishonor clearly resides with fighters that place the integrity of the sport on the line every time they step in a cage or ring.

However, UFC is the major stakeholder in MMA and as such, you need to do something. If not, be prepared to sit before congress and answer the questions of an angry Senator who possesses a large vocabulary and sharp tongue. There are discussions that it might happen with pro-wrestling. Why MMA would be any different, I don't know.

I've heard you mention a potential UFC-sponsored seminar designed to educate fighters. But in what? They don't know commissions -- well not in Texas -- are all over this stuff? Sure … education will definitely fix the problem, but only if you believe the majority of these tests are false positives from over-the-counter supplements. (And knowing what happened to Nathan Marquardt, you always have to be a bit suspicious -- see what screwing up will do to the way you're viewed.)

Really, you could have much more influence as a difference maker doing something you excel at: putting square pegs in round holes.

Being a f---ing fighter, Dana, isn't just about wearing Afflication t-shirts and brawling in the cage. It's about what you do in the gym; what you do on the street; how you conduct yourself as a professional.

Had Renato Sobral been a fullback in the NFL, he would likely face suspension and the prospect of adding his name to a really bad book after being arrested last week. Instead, he's fighting on Aug. 25 with seemingly no questions asked.

Why aren't you holding your athletes accountable? (Again, you're not the only one. EliteXC [they're another promoter, Dana] did everything it could to get Charles Bennett out of jail so he could fight.)

Unfortunately, it seems for every Dan Henderson there are 10 guys on the opposite end of the spectrum.

This is about more than cheaters and a fair playing field. This is about the truth of your product, and by pretty obvious extension, the sport. You promoted a lightweight title fight in which both guys tested positive for steroids. One said he did it; the other appears to be appealing.

Well, I'm appealing to you here.

You like to recall the tale of how you came into MMA and saved everyone. It was your money, no one else's. It was your work, no one else's. It was your guts. Your blood.

So, then, is it not your responsibility to lift this current carnival of a sport onto your shoulders and carry it to a place where we can actually discuss Sean Sherk versus B.J. Penn instead of The Muscle Shark's nandrolone levels?

With all that's on the line, for you not to recognize that the UFC needs to be the industry leader and aggressively go about stamping out drugs in MMA boggles the mind.

Let me offer a suggestion if I can be so bold.

I know your company propagated the message that Zuffa changed MMA by bringing in new rules that cleaned up the sport. (Pay no attention to the fact that the SEG-era UFC promoted a regulated show in New Jersey when you still were tasked with getting sponsors for Tito Ortiz's shorts.)

Here's an opportunity to actually do something you can rightfully take credit for:

Dana, clean up mixed martial arts.

Josh Gross
Executive Editor - Sherdog.com

California Patriot
07-22-2007, 08:40 PM
Mr. Josh "Holy of Holies and Save the Whales" Gross,

Its funny how when bad things happen, you love to call me out and say that I need to jump in and fix it. All the positive things that Zuffa has done over the past 6 years and you write me an open letter telling me to fix the problem of fighters using steroids? You are the biggest idiot I have ever met in this industry. Josh "holier than now" Gross writes a letter full of insults and sarcasm about what my company and I have accomplished since buying the UFC- like it was some easy chore. This is the same scumbag who released the finalists of TUF season 4 before it even aired. Josh, before you start trying to fix my company, worry about the potential lying, corruptions and inaccuracies at your own shitty website.

To all the fighters out there that fight for me or another promotion: these fan boy websites come kissing your ass when they want to shoot video of you or get an interview so they can make money off you. But when you make a mistake, they will be right there to kick your teeth down your throat. One of the great things that has happened over the past 6 years is that real media covers us now. So when these fan boy self proclaimed MMA websites want to do video interviews or any other kind of interview to make themselves money tell them to stop calling you and leave you alone. They are not doing you any favors- they are making money off of you. I have not let Sherdog into a UFC event in years. And the UFC is doing just fine.

Anyway, back to steroids- every athlete on this planet knows what's going on with steroids right now and we make it very clear what the athletic commission will do to them if they are caught. In fact, to my knowledge, athletes competing in combative sports are the only ones in the world who get drug tested by the government, that's a pretty high standard to meet. Imagine if every NBA, MLB or NFL athlete was drug tested by the government every time they competed? That's a very high standard yet UFC fighters face government drug testing every time they enter the Octagon.

Everyone knows that it hurts me and my company badly when one of my fighters tests positive for steroids. Listen Josh "save the whales" Gross- I can't save the world by myself. So roll your boss back into the ocean and write a letter "Attention all promoters." When your product is human beings, there are always going to be problems and nothing is ever going to be perfect.

Gross, you have no clue the stuff I deal with on a daily basis with fighters. Myself and the UFC are adamantly opposed to the use of steroids or any other kind of drugs. Most of these guys that fight in the UFC are my friends and I care about them. My job isn't to smash them publicly and ruin their lives. Apparently, that's your job. My job is to help them through whatever problems they might have- professional or personal.

I don't know if anyone has ever seen Josh Gross but the guy has never done anything athletic in his entire life. And you only have to see Jeff Sherwood and his staff to know the same thing about them. These people don't know the first thing about the demands and challenges that professional athletes are faced with. I have my own opinion of Sherdog and Gross and how they run their business but I don't write open letters to the public about it. So for these goofy supposed fan boy clowns to sit around and write letters about what I need to do with my company and my athletes is fucking hilarious.

You guys just keep selling DVDs and chasing my guys around for video interviews so you can make more money and keep eating and I will handle the UFC and it's fighters.

Dana White

Ruger
07-23-2007, 08:30 AM
Here comes the BOOM!!!

1Adam12
07-23-2007, 07:38 PM
You know, it's just too bad that Dana hasn't yet been as forthcoming with regards to his initial problem w/ Sherdog. without knowing both sides to that one (we've already heard from the Sherdog staff), this just looks like some back and forth nit-picky B.S.
And, who's the real winner of this argument? Dana puts down Sherdog in a very unprofessional manner and eludes to how busy he is and calls them "goofy supposed fan boy clowns" yet, he, or someone on staff, took the time to read Gross' letter and, even more time to compose a reply.:confused:

Ruger
07-26-2007, 08:54 AM
Sherdog has no problem cleaning up his plate, maybe he should clean up the sport. Dana's letter was to the point and not whiny. BOOM!!!